tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post1803391494445796796..comments2024-03-24T05:22:27.179-04:00Comments on Orthonomics: A Simplistic Approach to Vouchers and one Heck of a Ridiculous AssertionOrthonomicshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-62487178551310212832010-07-01T15:53:04.628-04:002010-07-01T15:53:04.628-04:00Could be an urban legend.Could be an urban legend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-12797434028448520522010-06-30T22:42:35.669-04:002010-06-30T22:42:35.669-04:00Ariella, I hate that false blackmail threat. Ever...Ariella, I hate that false blackmail threat. Everyone knows that none of those families would let their precious kinderlach near a big bad public school! I can't believe a school board would fall for it.tesyaanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-79534823218059673102010-06-30T18:28:48.006-04:002010-06-30T18:28:48.006-04:00As RAM says, the argument would only be persuasive...As RAM says, the argument would only be persuasive if they can back them with real numbers rather than sweeping assertions. In my own area school district there is a great deal of conflict between the yeshiva-sending parents and the public schools. This becomes very blatant during school board elections. Supposedly one year, when the public schools were planning to no longer provide bus service to the private schools, the yeshiva parents won their point by threatening to enroll their children in the public schools, which costs the taxpayers about $20K per student, they say. That would have broken their budget altogether, so they backed down. But it's clear that they still resent providing anything to the yeshiva population.Ariella's bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09409352047101582583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-45614815024058214532010-06-28T09:46:45.937-04:002010-06-28T09:46:45.937-04:00Anyone from the Jewish community who asserts in pu...Anyone from the Jewish community who asserts in public that a voucher system would help local taxpayers in general (and not only those using private schools) needs to provide persuasive, in-depth substantiation and not slogans.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11088882748518758064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-74688277316818567252010-06-25T11:53:14.352-04:002010-06-25T11:53:14.352-04:00i'm pretty sure it's not mandatoy in ny
i...i'm pretty sure it's not mandatoy in ny<br /><br />i just post on that nyt article on hebrew charter school<br />http://agmk.blogspot.com/2010/06/racially-mixed-hebrew-charter-school.htmlLion of Zionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-23607584100109329542010-06-25T11:50:32.955-04:002010-06-25T11:50:32.955-04:00Florida has a program, VPK -- voluntary prekinderg...Florida has a program, VPK -- voluntary prekindergarten. You can use the voucher for any school. It provides for either a half day school year program, or a full-time summer program.<br /><br />Some of us that were paying for childcare anyway are just getting a subsidy, but others are encouraged to help get the kids ready.<br /><br />It's all voluntary, no obligation to use it.Miami Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977503720972852329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-27212339763765282202010-06-25T10:35:27.357-04:002010-06-25T10:35:27.357-04:00Orthonomics - I am quite sure that in many places ...Orthonomics - I am quite sure that in many places universal preschool exists, it's not mandatory.<br /><br />Also, kids who need education don't necessarily need special education. If needy preschool kids who could be educated in regular ed receive special ed, the cost is fivefold or tenfold.tesyaanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-299040565715187262010-06-25T10:10:13.712-04:002010-06-25T10:10:13.712-04:00tesyaa-The kids who need pre-school the most are n...tesyaa-The kids who need pre-school the most are normally covered by Head Start or special education services and therapies, an area that has grown tremendously since I was in school. Certainly there are children who are not being covered and are unprepared for school, but I don't think that is a good enough argument to make pre-school mandatory for all, taking choice away from parents during these most precious years at tremendous cost to taxpayers and/or cost to other important public school programming that might suffer the ax. <br /><br />Nor is it a good argument to pay for something that the vast majority of parents already pay for out of pocket. When it comes to choice and competition in education, I'd say the pre-school sector is actually quite competitive and even innovative and the facts simply don't show that Universal Preschool or amount spent per student translates into better academic performance overall.Orthonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-87662218854032109762010-06-25T09:40:23.098-04:002010-06-25T09:40:23.098-04:00Article from NY Times on the Hebrew Charter School...Article from NY Times on the Hebrew Charter School in Brooklyn, looks like they approve.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/25/nyregion/25hebrew.html?hpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-38242113455719336202010-06-25T07:46:30.853-04:002010-06-25T07:46:30.853-04:00I'm not a conservative and I happen to be in f...I'm not a conservative and I happen to be in favor of universal preschool. Clearly you haven't seen kids entering kindergarten (or even first grade) with no educational background. It's not pretty. Depends where you live, of course.tesyaanoreply@blogger.com