tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post2068588202118674150..comments2024-03-24T05:22:27.179-04:00Comments on Orthonomics: Orthonomicshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-20309363053925432612009-08-26T19:33:41.340-04:002009-08-26T19:33:41.340-04:00Anonymous 6:19: They still have to have the full ...Anonymous 6:19: They still have to have the full 180 days, so closing for yom tov will only work if all the employees are willing to work other days, which would mean keeping schools open later in june and/or starting earlier in August. Then that also raises issues about bus service and problems if the school buildings are used for other programs, like summer school in the summer. In short, don't count on special scheduling. However, I know of one charter school that has 200 full school days a year, so there may be room for flexibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-66027251509461809592009-08-26T18:19:33.623-04:002009-08-26T18:19:33.623-04:00Just one small correction about the Hebrew Languag...Just one small correction about the Hebrew Language Charter School: Rosh Hashanah is probably not on the calendar this year because it falls on a weekend! I'm sure that in future years the school will close for Rosh Hashanah just as regular NYC public schools do. I'm curious whether the charter school will close for the other yamim tovim, but I would have to guess probably not. That said, if they end up with a large enough percentage of observant teachers and/or students, they could presumably make the decision to close for all of the holidays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-74538483446431358932009-08-26T12:26:19.917-04:002009-08-26T12:26:19.917-04:00The Hebrew Charter school idea is a joke. The Jew...The Hebrew Charter school idea is a joke. The Jewish Week had an article about it, and the person quoted most prominently is an intermarried woman, whose kid is half-Irish Catholic (albeit halachically Jewish). This is a solution to the day school "problem"? Not hardly. You'll have one per district, maybe, and most of the kids won't be observant, or perhaps even Jewish. All you get is Hebrew language. <br /><br />Since most of you didn't go to afternoon programs, as a graduate of both public schools and afternoon Talmud Torah, let me be blunt --- they suck. Those programs do more to kill Yiddishkeit than anything else. Kids don't want to be sitting in hebrew school when their buddies are doing fun stuff. <br /><br />I won't even get into home-schooling. If it makes you happy, gezunte heit, but I seriously question the education.jdubnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-70164786810662268922009-08-25T23:46:48.082-04:002009-08-25T23:46:48.082-04:00You don't even need a charter school to have H...You don't even need a charter school to have Hebrew immersion; there exist normal zoned neighborhood public schools with bilingual immersion programs, mostly in Spanish. I used to live in a school district that had such, taking advantage of a large Puerto Rican community. The kids came out totally bilingual. This in a very poor school district in a very poor town that was mainly known for its spectacularly high rate of heroin addiction.<br /><br />I actually live in a neighborhood with sufficiently large numbers of Israelis that a bilingual immersion program might work. But many of the Israelis send their kids to a secular Zionist private school here that covers grades preschool to eighth grade. And many religious families send *their* kids there even though it isn't a religious school because they know that their kids will come out truly fluent in Hebrew. Many of the graduates go to high school at the NYC magnet schools like Bronx Science or Stuveysant.Charlie Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667135360784254574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-14190895209339407962009-08-25T23:41:04.877-04:002009-08-25T23:41:04.877-04:00"What is the best way to save Jewish educatio..."What is the best way to save Jewish education in America for the majority of families who want it?"<br /><br />Before we can answer that question, we need to answer why we need Jewish education. Several possibilities:<br /><br />(1) To produce talmidei chachomim.<br /><br />(2) To produce Jewishly-learned laypeople.<br /><br />(3) To provide the best secular education in a Jewish environment.<br /><br />(4) To prevent contact with non-Jews.<br /><br />If the purpose is (1), then forget about Jewish education for anyone other than the best students, who can go to public schools.<br /><br />If the purpose is (3) or (4), just move into a small school district and take it over; you can have a school system that is over 95% Jewish in a short time. There were such schools in the Bronx and near Baltimore a generation ago.<br /><br />If the purpose is (2), ditch the science labs and secular libraries, reducing costs.<br /><br />Another problem is that we have not yet addressed how large a priority is Jewish education for young people compared to other possible uses of our scarce financial resources. Given the rate at which we are establishing new kollels while day schools are closing, education for young people doesn't appear to be a particularly high priority.Charlie Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667135360784254574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-32880054045693049582009-08-25T16:12:17.356-04:002009-08-25T16:12:17.356-04:00It is difficult to get a man to understand somethi...It is difficult to get a man to understand something,” said Upton Sinclair, “when his salary” — “depend upon his not understanding it.”<br /><br />That is why nothing will change until yeshiva administrators know that they will lose the children to public school - and will then lose their jobs - right now they benefit fromn the system - incompetint administrators get year or year raises and make $200,000 or moreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-16943729315964152082009-08-25T13:28:04.339-04:002009-08-25T13:28:04.339-04:00Yael,
I am neither a nay-sayer nor an advocate of ...Yael,<br />I am neither a nay-sayer nor an advocate of this model of schooling. My commentary was intended to point out where the model might have problems and also to point out that it is a limited model, with only a small percentage of the population able to use it should they desire it. It does not answer the larger problem of the Jewish educational system. Nor is it widespread enough, or even in existence, to answer the immediate problems that some parents are facing now. <br /><br /> Home schooling is available now: hybrid schools are not. If we are talking about a future endeavor then it behooves us to look at all the aspects of the hybrid school, both pros and cons. Otherwise we run the danger of creating a new system that won't have any less problems than the old system does.ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-52748754736850741012009-08-25T13:20:34.756-04:002009-08-25T13:20:34.756-04:00Shelley,
The problem with single-gender schools i...Shelley,<br /><br />The problem with single-gender schools is the law, not the numbers. It doesn't matter if there are enough kids to justify more than one charter school. Same deal for trying to select a more heavily Jewish population.<br /><br />Charter schools are not day schools that pretend to be public schools. They are public schools that add a component of enrichment (e.g., Hebrew language, Jewish culture, etc.). They are no more permitted to have chanukah decorations without Christmas ones or other holiday balance (or vice versa) than any other public school. Being frum or Jewish does not entitle you to a spot in a hebrew language school either. <br /><br />There might be better accomodation for observant students or a more understanding administration & staff. However, this follows the same laws, rules, and dependence on the individual as happens in public school. One would hope that a charter school that promotes Hebrew language and related culture would be friendly and tolerant of Jewish observance, but there is no guarantee for this. The "safety in numbers" arguments for being accomodated or creating a "more benign environment" applies equally as much to a charter school as it does to regular public school.<br /> <br />Take for example the Hebrew Language Academy, the new charter school in Brooklyn that started just this week.<br /><br />First, in terms of calendar, you'll notice, for example, that the school is open on Rosh Hashana. The only Jewish holiday given off in the fall is Yom Kippur. However, the students do have off on Columbus Day and Veterans Day (pretty standard in New York city schools).<br /> <br />Selection for students was by lottery, giving preference for those living in the district (and in the future, will extend to siblings of enrolled students as well). You can *hope* that due to self-selection (and maybe the size of observant families) you wind up with a more heavily Jewish population, but that may or may not happen, depending on the district. If you read through the profiles of the administration and staff and check out some of the articles explaining the initial enrolled population in this school, you'll find a mix of backgrounds represented. <br /><br />Personally, I support hebrew language charter schools. I think a major component of Jewish education is full or partial immersion in Hebrew, so I welcome the opportunity to build these skills through the public school system. That said, make no mistake that charter schools are public schools, and this creates limits on just how accomodating they can be for Jewish students and Jewish education.Offwingernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-30598578956043458392009-08-25T12:25:27.048-04:002009-08-25T12:25:27.048-04:00I just wanted to share this. In Colorado there are...I just wanted to share this. In Colorado there are programs run by district public schools for homeschool families. It is one day a week enrichment classes, run by teachers with experience in the homeschooling arena. My children just started it today. The classes that are offered are, music, art, money and budget management, science experiments, PE, Spanish. It is free and you have no obligations to the public school system. They have many sites through out Colorado and the one we go to is few minutes away. This is out first year trying it. I hope it is a succes.Baranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-3219803240824619522009-08-25T11:56:10.118-04:002009-08-25T11:56:10.118-04:00Anonymous--the day schools do a half-day of secula...Anonymous--the day schools do a half-day of secular studies in elementary school by shorting science and social studies slightly in favor of math and reading. In older grades, the day just gets longer. <br /><br />In most day schools, Ivrit is taught abysmally. It's a real embarrassment that I could speak French nearly fluently after 3-4 years of one period a day in high school, and most kids can't hold a conversation after 8 or 12 years of day school unless they've summered in Israel. I would hope that a Hebrew charter school would teach Ivrit the way public schools teach French.<br /><br />As for the gender issue--not my problem; I'm all for mixed-gender schools. But Sephardi Lady thinks this has been done....And yes, there would be plenty plenty of population for 2 single-gender schools if most of the day-school population transferred to the charter schools.<br /><br />The point of establishing charter schools is that we select a more heavily Jewish population. While not being a FRUM environment, it does provide a BENIGN environment. No Friday night football games or Christmas decorations.Shelleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-61923573952985336032009-08-25T11:54:44.857-04:002009-08-25T11:54:44.857-04:00Yael, you explained yourself nicely in your last c...Yael, you explained yourself nicely in your last comment. The only thing I take exception to is the line "We did choose our family's lifestyle a number of years ago so we don't have to make such terrible choices for our family later in time." None of us can see what the future will bring. Your employment situation might change, your children's needs might change, anyone's health situation might change. You are trying to do what's best, but you can only see the right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-90827399286378300922009-08-25T11:43:25.295-04:002009-08-25T11:43:25.295-04:00Tesyaa,
I have go out to the pool and kendo lesso...Tesyaa,<br /><br />I have go out to the pool and kendo lessons with my kids now, so I do not have adequate time to comment fully, but we all make choices -- the SAHM, WAHM, WAFM (Work away from home mom) and the dads in those situations too. <br /><br />It doesn't have to be only you (the wife) toiling away at home, it could be your husband or both of you! I have two advanced degrees and could work at a position where I would rival my husbands income (not forever but for the short term future). I choose not to and stay at home and homeschool our children instead (BTW, that IS my job and it saves us 2 days school tuitions and day care/tuition for a preschooler and a baby due at the end of the year - not chump change). It isn't always easy but the bad days I suck up and the good days, I'm happy about!<br /><br />What if the school for your girls becomes too much for your budget? (and I sincerely hope it never comes true!!) Would you ask the community to pay or some macher to take out a loan for you? We did choose our family's lifestyle a number of years ago so we don't have to make such terrible choices for our family later in time. I think that most people did not leave themselves choices through passive or active choice (career choice, education level, location, choice of school) and are unhappily stuck now. I feel for them. And that is why ProfK and you and any of the other naysayers out there can rest assured there will be yeshiva/day schools now and in the future.<br /><br />But there are families RIGHT NOW who are at the start of their choices and they CAN do differently in order not to live from paycheck to paycheck making 100,000$ a year. That is all SephardiLady is trying to advocate for at this time....<br /><br />p.s. I do not feel morally superior to other moms, but I do get very cranky when the conversation inevitably turns to how much moms (families) hate the current system/schools and wish it were otherwise! I do my hishtadlus and let G-d take care of the rest.Yael Aldrichhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/jewishorthodoxandhomeschooling/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-30045092076843781342009-08-25T11:42:36.772-04:002009-08-25T11:42:36.772-04:00The evangelical church down the block had a "...The evangelical church down the block had a "hybrid home school" that the neighborhood unsuccessfully fought on zoning grounds. They explained to the zoning board that the kids would sit in cubicles doing workbooks while the parents supervised. The quality was laughable. The church and its school failed.<br /><br />In the public school universe, there is an additional option in my state, a cyber-charter school. The students get their instruction from a teacher with live online classes. The quality seems to be mixed.<br /><br />As a public school graduate who is educating my children in a day school, I think the public schools are unfairly maligned. <br /><br />The after school "supplemental" talmud torahs were the real problem. They combined the ineptness found in much of Jewish education, unmotivated parents and students with crushingly low aspirations. The goal was to teach us how to daven and little more. It is miraculous that those of us who became baalei tshuva survived the experience.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00577420525145852823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-58312044672819066102009-08-25T11:17:49.505-04:002009-08-25T11:17:49.505-04:00And why do mothers who have the temperament to sta...And why do mothers who have the temperament to stay home with children feel morally superior to those who prefer not to? I have worked full time, and I also spent more years as a SAHM than many commenters here have even been a parent. I have seen both sides, and there is no moral high ground. There are a lot of mothers who are incapable of earning enough to sustain their childcare costs, that I know. There are mothers who could not manage their families while working full time. That doesn't mean that all women, even mothers of large families, are incapable of doing so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-12664445734303150652009-08-25T11:14:48.960-04:002009-08-25T11:14:48.960-04:00Yael, thank you for your civil tone -- this time. ...Yael, thank you for your civil tone -- this time. (I found your "Ha!" at the end of your previous comment a bit unnecessary). All I can say is, if I were starting from scratch with my children, I might very well have sent them all to public school. Unfortunately, some things are hard to change midstream. I'm sure you can understand that. If you had older children who were happy in (an affordable) school and suddenly decided you wanted to homeschool and let's say your children didn't want to, would you make them miserable for that reason? Or would you risk your marriage? No, you'd think long and hard and decide what was most important to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-28068955036900929732009-08-25T10:41:10.647-04:002009-08-25T10:41:10.647-04:00Dear Tesyaa:
I went to public school and wasn'...Dear Tesyaa:<br /><br />I went to public school and wasn't even brought up frum (I became frum in college)! I became frum because I was strong enough to buck normalcy for what I thought was right.<br /><br />Tesyaa, I am so glad you are able to access public education for some of your children. I would like to comment though, that your boy's educational needs seems to be the only "acceptable" reason in the frum world to send your children to public school. You yourself mention that you have other children in the frum school system and that you evaluate where each child goes. If the frum schools were suddenly able to adequately educate your public school children, would you do so? Would you be able to do so financially? I agree, it's hard! <br /><br />We all know that everyone is having a lot of trouble with paying the enormous sums needed for a day school/yeshiva education. I know we would and we only have three so far (and a fourth on the way, b'shaah tovah). I know everyone says, "No one pays full tuition!" But that is the problem -- the system is unable to sustain itself on what money is coming in now (and while that may be partially because of mis-management or high salaries to administrators, it isn't all of it). But, as Offwinger, UWSMom, and Ariella said there are other mitigating factors, such as babysitting needs because of two full-time (or more) working parents or that the parents CAN'T, CAN'T, CAN'T stay at home with their children all day, every day (not that they would have to when they homeschool). <br /><br />I know (and have said more than once on this blog and IRL) that not everyone is cut out to homeschool (heck, there are days I am not cut out to homeschool!) -- but I know that since even you, who LIKES the public school system, won't make the plunge to public school ALL your children, there is SOMETHING the day school/yeshiva school gives you that you are not willing to sacrifice at the cost you pay to the school currently. <br /><br />That is why I firmly believe ProfK and all the other naysayers do not have to worry -- day/yeshiva school will continue because too many people are locked in the system and refuse to take the red -- or is it blue? ;) pill and see there is another world out there -- homeschooled, hybrid schooled or even regular yeshiva/day school but knowing that we are all responsible for our child's education and that takes PARENTAL sacrifice (be it financial, time or emotional/social). <br /><br />Offwinger says politely exactly what I say in a snarky tone. I am tired of hearing that it can't be done -- it can. No one wants to be the first to do it. Just like everything in the frum world...Yael Aldrichhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/jewishorthodoxandhomeschooling/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-57785518031662867102009-08-24T23:53:29.514-04:002009-08-24T23:53:29.514-04:00"Really? I think the question should be '..."Really? I think the question should be 'What is the best way to save Jewish education in America for the majority of families who want it?'"<br />-----------------------------<br />Actually, I think there are two questions that are important here.<br /><br />The first is, "What is the best way for me to provide my children with a Jewish education?"<br /><br />The second is, "What can I offer the Jewish community to ensure that all children have access to the amount/type of Jewish education that is necessary to sustain our community?"<br /><br />I don't think the current model needs to be "saved," because I don't think it is the only acceptable way to provide a suitable Jewish education. And I think we need to separate wants from needs. Many people WANT a private school option for all children and have come to view it as a must-have. That doesn't make it a necessity.<br /><br />I think too many people have assumed that it is a communal responsibility to provide their children with the education that they *want* for them. Now, we're facing the fact that this model is simply not sustainable.<br /><br />Other than the yeshivah or day school model, you have two basic options for providing a Jewish education:<br /><br />(1) Public School + supplemental Jewish education; or<br />(2) Home school or Small Co-op<br /><br />There is no getting around the fact that both the need for adequate supervision of children and the law dictates that these are the choices.<br /><br />What is nice about the hybrid model is that it allows people in camp #1 & camp #2 to pool resources & work together, even if they diverge in how they are providing the secular component of the education or even the core daycare/babysitting aspect of it.<br /><br />Beyond that, I understand that people can't simply change jobs or career paths overnight. However, given changes in the economy and technology, I think it is perfectly reasonable that observant men and women should consider how the career, job and lifestyle they are aspiring to fits within the realm of chinuch. Shomer shabbat individuals are used to looking at which jobs are not friendly for shabbat observance. The responsibility to provide your children with a Jewish education should be just as important, and it's not simply "I have to make a lot of $ for tuition."<br /><br />The reason so many people are dismissing home schooling and co-op based ideas is that they are locked into 9 to 5 (or 8 to 6 & beyond) jobs & careers that create the need for school as daycare/babysitting. <br /><br />Well, fine, that might be true for many observant people, but maybe it's time for the mindset to be that Jewish education requires either:<br />(1) an extremely high income to allow for private/elite school for all your children; or<br />(2) flexibility in the work schedule/location that would allow for at least part-time supervision of children during the day, despite working a full-time job. This can be achieved because of telecommuting, off-shifting the hours of work production, and so forth.<br /><br />I'm not suggesting that #2 is possible for everyone, but it certainly is possible for many more people NOW than ever before. So many people assume that #1 is the only way to go, but #2 is probably more attainable for most.<br /><br />Last, to respond to one line of comments here: the idea that you'd be able to create a Hebrew-language charter school that is only for boys or only for girls, let alone have *2* of them, each segregated by sex, is simply not legally possible.Offwingernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-92103995157400745022009-08-24T23:19:59.122-04:002009-08-24T23:19:59.122-04:00I love the idea of a hybrid or coop school. I hav...I love the idea of a hybrid or coop school. I have seriously thought about home schooling my kids for multiple reasons such as I think the kids spend too many hours in schools that are not using time efficently (there is a tremendous amount of time during the school day that the kids are not learning), the high cost of day school and because I believe that there is a very real intellectual benefit to home schooling. The hybrid or cooperative part would help me deal with subjects that I'm not sure that I could teach effectively and of course the social aspects of day school.<br /><br />I know I am in the minority, though. I am "home camping" my 4 kids this summer, although my 2 oldest did go to sleep away for 1 month. 95% of the people that I speak with think I am crazy for having my kids home for the summer. I happen to love it.<br />We get to sleep late and they get to have some input in their day. The kids also get to spend a ton of time together (and with me) developing their relationships in a way that they can't when they are in school.<br /><br />I do think that if a person chooses a hybrid or coop school saving money could never be the sole factor in the decision.Unfortunately for me, I think most people would choose public school before they would choose home school or hybrid school. <br /><br />If any of you live in or near Manhattan and are perhaps interested in doing a school coop in the future feel free to email me (just click on my name).Upper West Side Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316605883392229067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-29118653106966042352009-08-24T23:11:10.166-04:002009-08-24T23:11:10.166-04:00To say that "A healthy budget should absorb a...<i>To say that "A healthy budget should absorb all housing and food costs under the primary income" does not take into consideration that in today's world, "primary income" may be the combination of two people's incomes rather than the money produced by only one person, both for older couples and certainly for younger couples who are just starting out.</i><br /><br />A budget that requires two salaries to pay for the basics is simply highly risky. What I'm saying might not be nice, but it doesn't mean that it isn't good advice. <br /><br />Generally younger couples are on shakier ground. As you age, mitigating risk is a wise strategy.Orthonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-53712076197552812262009-08-24T23:02:31.694-04:002009-08-24T23:02:31.694-04:00Whatever the answer to that question is, it isn...<i>Whatever the answer to that question is, it isn't going to be the Yeshiva/Day School model of the last 30+ years.</i><br /><br />I could not agree more.<br /><br />ProfK-I specifically use "primary breadwinner" to be gender neutral, although I see where I did sometimes refer to mothers. There are a growing number of fathers serving as the homemaker and that is fine if it works for them. But, I think the male is generally served best by going into the world, which is why mothers are generally the candidates for part-time work or fulltime homemaking. <br /><br />That said, I see no reason why a man can't be a home educator or play a significant role. <br /><br />Additionally, "primary breadwinner" doesn't have to be based only on income. I imagine that my husband and I could possibly earn nearly equivlant salaries if I had went into a career building mode instead of a homemaking mode. But his job would still be "primary" because we established that his job has a higher place on the priority list that my own career aspirations. He needs his job for himself, far more than I needed my job for myself. Perhaps others families would place the woman's job higher and that too is their own perogative.Orthonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-42317824154090328052009-08-24T22:53:53.602-04:002009-08-24T22:53:53.602-04:00Shelley-I do believe I've covered some stories...Shelley-I do believe I've covered some stories on charter schools. You can search charter school and/or Ben Gamla on the top left hand corner of the blog. <br /><br />There are separate gender schools in certain urban districts, and I even read a Newsweek report about teachers separating their own classrooms with boys on one side and girls on the other. <br /><br />As far as I can tell, separate gender public schooling is gaining support, but I don't know that it will ever become the norm or that our kids will live in the areas where they can gain access. <br /><br />Perhaps I will see what I can come up with for a future post.Orthonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-40429741974223892582009-08-24T21:52:09.497-04:002009-08-24T21:52:09.497-04:00School should not just be about daycare. In any c...School should not just be about daycare. In any case, I can tell you from my own experience that the school schedule does not work for everyone's work schedule. I agree that the frum community needs to be open to considerations such as this one. It sounds very promising to me.Ariella's bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09409352047101582583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-77748994529289327422009-08-24T21:49:45.481-04:002009-08-24T21:49:45.481-04:00It's not reasonable to expect a charter school...It's not reasonable to expect a charter school teaching hebrew to have a shorter day when they have to teach intensive hebrew in addition to all the other material a public school covers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-79197769250264148002009-08-24T21:21:48.465-04:002009-08-24T21:21:48.465-04:00P.S. Not to give the wrong impression, I have 3 g...P.S. Not to give the wrong impression, I have 3 girls who are in yeshiva and never attended public school. We try to give each kid what that kid need at each point in time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-77059119458980411692009-08-24T20:45:18.996-04:002009-08-24T20:45:18.996-04:00And Yael, I realize you are invested in homeschool...And Yael, I realize you are invested in homeschooling, but not everyone feels the same way. Not every working mother is crying all day at work, wishing she were home teaching the kids. I really feel that I wouldn't homeschool unless I were truly out of options, and I guess that wouldn't happen until every public school in my district burned down and there were no private limudai kodesh teachers available. It's disrespectful for you to assume everyone thinks, or SHOULD think, as you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com