tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post8094663732929506403..comments2024-03-24T05:22:27.179-04:00Comments on Orthonomics: Areivim ContinuedOrthonomicshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-69557356022296916282010-05-28T01:44:33.450-04:002010-05-28T01:44:33.450-04:00megapixel-
I would have absolutely no objection to...megapixel-<br />I would have absolutely no objection to setting up a large fund for living expenses for almanot in advance of an actual death. This fund isn't set up for that. For one, you have to be a memeber. Secondly, funds are collected upon a death through a pre-registered credit card. <br /><br />If you go back to the other posts and see the comments of Mr. Bochner you will hopefully understand my concern about this program being pushed as an alternative to life insurance. Sure Mr. Bochner goes on record to say people should get life insurance. But, then he goes on to state that life insurance is too expensive, people won't buy it, etc, etc. <br /><br />Those who have the communal ear have a tremendous opportunity to promote healthy personal finance and it would be lovely to see help supplementing real life insurance, rather than setting up a poorly envisioned plan, even if the founders think it brilliant.Orthonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-73251379198405951292010-05-28T01:19:22.854-04:002010-05-28T01:19:22.854-04:00orthonomics, I realize you are against Areivim as ...orthonomics, I realize you are against Areivim as an insurance program, because it wont work. <br /><br />But what about thinking of Areivim as a Tzedaka org. that is set up in advance of tragedy, so that if they are needed, dont need to fundraise - they already have the source for the money.<br /><br />when I think of it that way, I dont see why you are so dead set against it. <br />Are they pushing this as an alternative to real life insurance?<br />I dont think so.megapixelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-34837999770601931922010-05-27T17:44:58.100-04:002010-05-27T17:44:58.100-04:00I don't think it's suspicious having 5 org...I don't think it's suspicious having 5 organizations at one address. One office is probably handling 5 accounts. That saves money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-46133117535022657912010-05-27T17:31:25.484-04:002010-05-27T17:31:25.484-04:00Was he sure he had the right town? ;)Was he sure he had the right town? ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-9542166087929966002010-05-27T17:30:08.950-04:002010-05-27T17:30:08.950-04:00The saddest thing about this is that the poorest o...The saddest thing about this is that the poorest of the poor are the ones being ripped off. The better off folks are usually smart enough to avoid such scams, or at least only "contribute" relatively small amounts.<br /><br />MarkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-69837776453540550612010-05-27T12:02:03.334-04:002010-05-27T12:02:03.334-04:00I've given to Yad Eliezer. I also give to Haz...I've given to Yad Eliezer. I also give to Hazon Yeshaya. Both seem on the up and up.<br /><br />I remember hearing a story from a friend whose relative gave faithfully every year to a tzedaka in Israel that sent him a pamphlet. After many year of annual giving, he decided to visit the charity during his trip to Israel. When he got to the street, there was no such address.JSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-87658681824249748302010-05-27T11:44:36.266-04:002010-05-27T11:44:36.266-04:00Anyone who wishes to help yesomim and almonos shou...Anyone who wishes to help yesomim and almonos should give their money to Yad Eliezer. They are the largest tzedoko organization in E"Y and probably the most honest and straightforward.<br />No scam ads, no paid officers in the US. <br />I've given them $1000s and will continue to do so. In their site you can choose which program to give to, including job training, baby formula, yesomim, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-14451235947879192112010-05-27T11:19:13.492-04:002010-05-27T11:19:13.492-04:00Anonymous-I have reworded to clarify the point. R...Anonymous-I have reworded to clarify the point. Rabbi Horowitz is literate. If Mr. Bochner handed in a paper like that to me, I'd probably hand back a pink slip.Orthonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-25632527417570837522010-05-27T11:07:52.545-04:002010-05-27T11:07:52.545-04:00Blynmom is right about Oorah. When I first heard ...Blynmom is right about Oorah. When I first heard about Oorah I naively thought they raised money to pay yeshiva tuition for nonobservant children. Only later did I realize that they raise money for "outreach" (and they have high overhead), but they do not pay tuition and instead convince well meaning yeshivas to take the kids basically for free.tesyaanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-50503669953418361282010-05-27T10:44:12.934-04:002010-05-27T10:44:12.934-04:00Maybe I'm being naive, but why not just call t...Maybe I'm being naive, but why not just call the police to investigate at this point? Why all the silly games asking for details this guy is obviously making up as he goes?JSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-39924081279699543092010-05-27T10:09:45.171-04:002010-05-27T10:09:45.171-04:00I was walking on Coney Island Ave one day, in the ...I was walking on Coney Island Ave one day, in the heart of frum Flatbush, Brooklyn one day and happened to glance at a door, one of those scratched, shabby looking doors that lead to an apartment or office above a store. On one mailbox, there were names of at least five different tzedakah-sounding organizations. Across the street, trhere was another door with the name of a local car service and two other tzedaka-sounding organizations. Now, I know things are not always what they seem, but that looks awfully suspicious.<br />And I would also love it if someone were to look into Oorah and their "practices." We somehow got on their mailing list and get tons of glossy brochures promising all sorts of prizes for the "chinese auctions" that only exist in cyberspace. BTW wouln't that just be called a raffle? More importantly, their printing and mailing costs must be astronomical, and the local yeshivas they place children into educate them for free or very little. Is that the best way for the community and the struggling schools to spend their money?<br />Looking at it another way, is it worth it to spend community's money to put non-religious kids in yeshivas for free and drive the already-religious families to pull their kids out because they can't afford yeshiva education?Bklynmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-50974767620499830412010-05-27T10:07:48.502-04:002010-05-27T10:07:48.502-04:00Just to clarify, when you say "semi-literate ...Just to clarify, when you say "semi-literate correspondence", you mean that RYH is literate and Bochner is not, correct?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-50925041533995116832010-05-27T08:42:15.516-04:002010-05-27T08:42:15.516-04:00Assuming that most thinking people will eventuiall...Assuming that most thinking people will eventuially read this site and Rabbi H's (and others), the program will be finished in due time. <br /><br />Now it is time to move on to the bigger picture - Kupar Hair (no, it is not about human-hair Indian sheitels), Vaad Harabonim, Oorah and 1-877-Kars-4-Kids (1-877-Kars-4-kids, 1-877-Kars-4-kids donate yopur car today). Maybe an analsysis of their 990s by someone who knows how to do that would be eqaully enightening.Waste not want notnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-21618128454281342862010-05-26T22:37:26.385-04:002010-05-26T22:37:26.385-04:00I call the clueless Rabbis running multi-Million d...I call the clueless Rabbis running multi-Million dollar orgs with no background and no oversight "Divine Right Directors"DAGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09475799835170867139noreply@blogger.com