tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post4566902212914479174..comments2024-03-24T05:22:27.179-04:00Comments on Orthonomics: Orthonomicshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-15693396271699813422009-09-02T10:42:12.587-04:002009-09-02T10:42:12.587-04:00Charlie:
You work for the medical school of Yeshi...Charlie:<br /><br />You work for the medical school of Yeshiva University, an endowed institution. Very different than these chinyuki institutions that are playing games with payment.anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-8562919329676452282009-09-02T10:12:05.180-04:002009-09-02T10:12:05.180-04:00Rosie,
I wish your daughter well, and I strongly a...Rosie,<br />I wish your daughter well, and I strongly agree with her that she needs to be assertive with the administration at her school. I only wish that I had done so when I started my own teaching career.<br />Best of luck to your daughterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-37528565066003284812009-09-02T00:18:23.520-04:002009-09-02T00:18:23.520-04:00My daughter took a teaching position this year and...My daughter took a teaching position this year and said that she would quit the minute her paycheck is delayed. My son was advised to go into chinuch and he said "chas v'sholem" and is planning to get a college degree. <br />Anonymous, we have to equip yeshiva teachers with the guts to say "no" to emotional manipulation. The fat-cat administrators are taking home your paychecks. If they want the poor children to have a chinuch, let them pay for it.rosienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-76362320665692069972009-09-02T00:00:32.804-04:002009-09-02T00:00:32.804-04:00"I was not paid for 3 months"
If my emp..."I was not paid for 3 months"<br /><br />If my employer, a prominent Jewish educational institution, missed even a single paycheck from me, I'd be shopping my resume in about one nanosecond. But in fact they pay employees on time.Charlie Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17667135360784254574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-40106138652550997492009-09-01T17:55:13.410-04:002009-09-01T17:55:13.410-04:00Dear Rosie:
I wand to add that at my school also s...Dear Rosie:<br />I wand to add that at my school also some of the parents spoke and that's what finally got us paid. I agree with the statement that it's almost like they want to foster a crisis mode of thinking. It also gives the administration a tremendous psychological hold on you if they owe you 3 months of your pay. One guy I'm friends with was talked into tutoring the executive director's son, and I only think he did this because he was afraid he would never get paid if he didn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-6739631327279206162009-09-01T17:43:06.221-04:002009-09-01T17:43:06.221-04:00Dear Rosie:
I can personally tell you that I was n...Dear Rosie:<br />I can personally tell you that I was not paid for 3 months while the administration at my school was actually given a cost of living increase. They then gave me and several other teachers the proverbial "you're sacrificing for the kids" line when we asked about our salary. This happended so often to us we wondered if it was planned that way to help the administration make budget.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-27034733409172751332009-09-01T11:02:51.383-04:002009-09-01T11:02:51.383-04:00They clearly have their children in the wrong scho...They clearly have their children in the wrong school. If that is the Hashkafa of the school's administration then that is the Hashkafa they are transferring to your children. I have had the experience of dealing with a school that for the most part I liked, but had some issues with the way the adminstration dealt with parents and teachers. I immediately moved my kids. Best chinuch decision I have ever made.Thinkingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-86400447779928150082009-09-01T07:09:12.726-04:002009-09-01T07:09:12.726-04:00This is tangential, but it's related to Rosie&...This is tangential, but it's related to Rosie's comment. While it seems strange to me to pay teachers directly, apparently this is something that is going on in the NYC public schools. Of course, those parents aren't also paying tuition, which, under Rosie's scenario, presumably wouldn't be waived:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/20/education/20schools.html<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/nyregion/26aides.html?_r=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-2243750837902780932009-09-01T00:03:24.885-04:002009-09-01T00:03:24.885-04:00Anonymous, if the administrators fail to make payr...Anonymous, if the administrators fail to make payroll, they need to take more than a 20% cut. Like the captain who goes down with the ship, they should not take a salary if they don't pay the staff. Apparently in some failing day schools, the administrators are still the 2 SUV families with trips to the Catskills, etc. I know that you are talking about barely making payroll which still implies that teachers are being paid but in some instances, from what I read on another site, the administrators are smiling all the way to the bank while unpaid teachers who threaten to quit are given "guilt trips" about all the chinuch that the kids won't receive. I don't know if everything you read in blogs is true but I spoke to one of my knowledgeable sons who said that there is some truth to it. Maybe parents can find a way to get together to make sure that their tuition payments and donations reach their child's teacher. I saw it happen for one classroom that was about to lose their teacher. The parents rallied behind her and made sure that she got paid. Maybe donors also will expect more accountability.rosienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-62001052622958932752009-08-31T22:35:23.852-04:002009-08-31T22:35:23.852-04:00Very Very Sad. I'm sure this is a bad request ...Very Very Sad. I'm sure this is a bad request but this institution probably needs to be named so everyone will know how they demonstrate Hakoras Hatov.Gave A Gethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04535282229506802844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-16295630870568117302009-08-31T18:02:21.324-04:002009-08-31T18:02:21.324-04:00You're right, this will alienate future potent...You're right, this will alienate future potential donors. After the economy recovers, they'll be quite sorry when this baal habos takes his children and his money elsewhere.Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-67698436696696574032009-08-31T16:37:06.585-04:002009-08-31T16:37:06.585-04:00This type of behavior sounds like another symptom ...This type of behavior sounds like another symptom of always being in crisis mode. Burning bridges and alienating people is never a good long-term plan. Many former big givers could again be big donors if the economy and their circumstances change. From a business perspective, why alienate them. From a human perspective, even if a school can't give breaks to people based on past giving because that doesn't pay this year's salaries, heat and rent, there are ways to say "I'm so very sorry but we are so tight right now we can't reduce your tuition since we are barely making payroll even though the administrators have already taken 20% salary cuts and class size has gone up" instead of "tough luck."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976303.post-69286623470565112882009-08-31T16:27:34.255-04:002009-08-31T16:27:34.255-04:00Sad, but not terribly surprising.
In the communi...Sad, but not terribly surprising. <br /><br />In the community I live in, although we do not have many wealthy people fitting the description in your story, many, many people give enormously of their time, donating professional services, etc., to the yeshiva - I can assure you from personal experience that the yeshiva does not typically show much campassion for these same folks when it comes to tution.Real-Time Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114685633776011051noreply@blogger.com